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What might "the need to support Ukraine" look like? Is it *not* wanting to bring the war to an end firstly, which until fairly recently I and many others saw as the obviously - and very generically, far from promoting fascism - humane position?

Would someone who sees the duplicity at work in the ratcheting up of involvement with Ukraine - from intel-only to tanks and special forces - but who is also sympathetic to Ukrainians be wrong in distrusting the American military and statecraft apparatus such that they can't abide being on its side?

Take Robert Wright for example. He's certainly no Angela Davis cheerleader for that which is just not America. Would it be fair to characterize him as part of these pathologically disillusioned haters of the Western Way of life?

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